Short Field Takeoff

by Jason Schappert

How do you perform your short field takeoffs? Are you really getting everything possible out of your airplane? Follow what your POH says then apply some of these tips I show you in the video below.

QUICK NOTE: I know my audience pretty well and I know one question you may have is… “Why didn’t I use Flaps?” I bet 95% of aircraft use flaps for this maneuver. However because 512R has aftermarket STOL wingtips (those droop tips you see in some videos) flaps are not needed for a short field takeoff.

Can’t wait to hear your stories and advice below! – Jason

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Mike King

Nice new graphics on your Logo!!
Sapilotcpa

No flaps????
Jeff Victor

Great tip on reading the POH…a C172N model states “Normal and short field takeoffs are performed with flaps up. Flap settings greater than 10~ are not approved for takeoff.”
”Use of 10~ flaps are reserved for takeoff from soft or rough fields.”
Chapter 4-14.
Truw

Correctly determining the takeoff required from the performance charts is vital in an actual short field situation. Then add 50% for a safety margin.
Randy

Great video. Cool Intro Graphics
Charlie

At what speed did you rotate?
http://www.facebook.com/joseph.turbin Joseph Turbin

Awesome video. Just found you through some of your YouTube videos and can’t get enough.

One suggestion… If I had to be picky. The audio volume from intro, to segment, to flight isn’t consistent. Is there any way you can make that smoother so I don’t have to be on my volume the whole video?

Like I said.. I’m only being picky.
Thanks again for your awesome videos!
Matthew Everett

Many times flaps, by creating drag, actually detract from performance more than they help.
Matthew Everett

A piece of advice I received for a true short field situation is to mark the midpoint of the runway (or whatever you’re using as one) with something you can clearly see from the cockpit. Then, on takeoff, if you’ve not reached 75% of your takeoff speed by that point, stop. The idea being, you don’t want to run off the end and that way you’ve got the same amount of runway available for stopping as you had to reach whatever speed you were going.

Note: you must still always do the performance calculations.
Bart Ritota

Jason why can I hear the engine but not your voice? I have an apple mac book.
mzeroa

Thanks Dude
mzeroa

Interesting! Glad to have helped
mzeroa

You Are spot on my friend!
mzeroa

Thanks Man!
mzeroa

55MPH and we were up and flying. (however I ate a big breakfast so maybe that had something to do with it)

hahaha

Jason
mzeroa

haha No worries my friend! I’m no video expert but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express (Is that how the joke goes?)

Have a great day my friend

Jason
mzeroa

I LOVE IT!

That way the Go or No Go decision is already made for you!

Jason
mzeroa

Weird!? I run all Apple products myself and everything is fine

No one else has had any issues

Jason
Kenn3621

Short field in a Piper. Lineup, put on parking brake, get your feet off the brakes(this prevents inadvertant brake drag from not getting completely off the brakes), full power, check instruments and begin T/O roll, as speed increases gradually pull back on yoke as aircraft feels light pull in first notch of flaps and climb at Vx till clear of obstacle, verify positive rate of climb take out flaps and climb at Vy. This is not by the book but it reduces the ground run a significient amount.
http://twitter.com/JasonLeeBee Jason

Jason,
Big fan of yours!! That’s pretty cool. Now with the after market flaps, are you still in Ground Effect? Also, I’ve never had to do the power breaking on a Cessna’s. Only on High Performance/ Complexed aircraft. Can you explain further please?

Thanks,
-Jason-
http://www.facebook.com/steve.severance1 Steve Severance

Jason,
Not sure what year 512R is, but the POH for my 1968 calls for NO flaps on high performance takeoffs. I’ve tested it and flaps did hurt more than they helped. My old CFI argued that one with me but I have since learned to fly by the POH.
Abdirizak

nice teacher johan
Peachman65

what is footage of the short field take off an landings? thanks don.
mzeroa

Makes sense Kenn

Jason
mzeroa

The power breaking is for 2 reasons. The first is maximum performance. I want that engine at full RPM and ready to roll nothing gradual. The second reason is I want to double check all my engine instruments. The last thing I need is to find out there is a problem when I’m already committed to the takeoff

Jason
mzeroa

Interesting Steve!

Flaps or no flaps can be a big argument sometimes. I always say just follow the POH.

Jason
mzeroa

Do you mean Where?

I have a video of the landing coming out in a few days if that’s what you’re asking

Jason
Dave

Once while training I tried to slow down to Vx after takeoff (allowed the the speed to accelerate faster than POH recommended) and got behind the power curve. Instructor said to just hold the speed and not to slow down when that happens. Any advice? By the way- nice intro!
Dave

Engine noise is on the left and Jason’s voice is on the right speaker. You may have a faulty speaker.
Mike

Jason,
Nice video as always! I saw your checklist sitting on the glareshield and I would strongly recommend against putting anything up there as they can sometimes move and be pretty distracting especially on takeoffs or landings.

Mike