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Winter Flying

by Jason Schappert

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Subject: It was solid IFR when the engine quit…

Hey Gang,

So on Monday I promised you 2 things

- A video on Winter Flying
- and my engine failure story thanks to ole’ man winter.

Well as promised here’s both…

Back in 2006 I was training for my commercial
certificate in the New England area. Because of
scheduling problems our flight needed to be in the
evening which meant we wouldn’t get back until
dark.

What we both thought was going to be a routine
Instrument refresher flight turned out to be anything
but.

I saved the METAR from that day, a portion of it read

28016G21KT 1 1/2 SM +SN OVC003

Which better translates to “Jason it’s a blizzard, you’re
from Florida, please don’t go flying today”

However for one odd reason or another my instructor
of all people talked me into it.

From the moment our wheels left the ground in our little
172 that would be the last time we saw the earth for over an
hour.

We shot an ILS approach into Martha’s Vineyard…. Had to go missed
We shot another approach into Newport State… Had to go missed

At this point I was really worried if we’d make it to anywhere that had
weather above approach minimums.

We opted to head back to where we started… the New Bedford Airport

Our first approach was the ILS to runway 5 (keep in mind what the
winds were doing) It certainly wasn’t favored and circling to land wasn’t
an option.

Our first shot was no luck… Solid IFR and had to go missed.

We elected to hold for 15 minutes and try it again…

Let me also add at this point our little 172 had no autopilot
so this was some stressful flying I was ready to land!

Upon leaving the hold we setup once again for the same ILS approach.
600ft for 272ft I called out to help me remember my minimums. 500ft
for 272ft we were right on course.

Finally at just shy of 300 ft my instructor shouted “I see the lights”

Excited, anxious, and ready to land I made the most crucial mistake
of my flying career.

—> I pulled the power out first

…not only out but to near idle…

The engine sputtered and began to windmill…

My heart sank for what felt like minutes but was only a matter of a
few seconds when my instructor shouted “carb heat!” and like clockwork
the engine began to return to life.

From that day forward I promised to never forget carb heat and trust
me even on a 90 degree Florida day I still make my students use it.

I want you guys and gals to be such a success in aviation so I’ve
compiled six of my best tips to help keep you safe this winter season
and for many more to come.

You can view the video below
Once you get done watching the video leave me a comment and share
your experiences flying in winter weather.

Remember A Good Pilot Is Always Learning!

See Ya,

Jason

What is your experience with winter flying? I’d love to hear! Leave me a comment below… – Jason

Text Transcript

Hey everyone. Jason Schappert of MzeroA.com here. I’m out here, it’s 12 degrees at Niagara Falls. I wanted to take a moment even if it’s freezing across the country to take about winter flying. Let’s go ahead and get to the video.

So, how cool was that? Niagara Falls was part of the secret honeymoon I had planned for Ashley. We had an absolute blast up there, but it really brought to my attention how cold it is up north. We were actually up in Canada doing that. It was 12 degrees! It was absolutely freezing. So, I compiled six great tips for you guys to make your winter flying more enjoyable and more importantly, more safe.

So the first thing is, try to keep your aircraft hangared. If that is an option for you, I highly recommend it. Hopefully your flight school is doing it for you and hopefully US aircraft will be able to do it or do it now. It makes preflight, makes everything so much easier.

Now to add on to that, if your aircraft is tied down outside, don’t rush with preflight just because it’s freezing. I flew a year up in Massachusetts with tied down Cessna 152s and it was cold! Tendency was, you want to rush with that preflight because the snow was blowing, it was freezing. All you want to do is get in that airplane, keep that prop turning so that the cabin heat gets working. That is not the right thing to do. Take your time with these preflight inspections, having hangared aircraft makes it a lot easier.

Also, dress to survive! You don’t normally hear me talk about these kind of things. Don’t show up in your flip flops and a pair of jeans, going flying over the snow. If something were to happen, you’d be able to dress to survive. Now when we were in Massachusetts, we still wore ski coats and everything else like that but in a 152, I’m six foot four. A ski coat makes it a lot difficult to get in and an out of that airplane, let alone fly it with an instructor.

So what we did is we typically brought space blankets, keep it in the back and had a little survival kit so that’s something to think about as well.

Third thing is, be aware of engine fire on start procedures. When that engine’s cold, it’s not gonna start. You’re gonna have to prime it like crazy, you’d have to do all tricks in the book… that’s just gonna be feeding the fire for a fire. Engine fires on start are more common up north or on colder days. So, having those engine fire on start whether the engine starts or whether it doesn’t, the procedure’s down cold. No pun’s intended.

Allow time for the engine to warm. Slow it down on the taxi. Do the run-up a little bit longer. Give that engine temperature time to increase. Watch that oil temperature gauge. Make sure everything is working properly. You don’t want to be flying down the runway trying to force that engine when it’s freezing cold. Allow that engine to have time to warm.

Fifth thing is, apply carb heat before takeoff. It’s just happened one day, it was a cold foggy day in Florida. A student and I came up, we were departing IFR, we were getting ready to depart. I said, “Let’s apply carb heat.” Sure enough, when we applied the carb heat, we got a drop followed by a rise. Which means what? Which means we have carb ice. I think if we tried to take off on that circumstance, apply full power, and we’ve got ice blocking fuel to our carburetor to our engine while we’re departing IFR at low altitude… not cool at all.

So apply carb heat before takeoff and don’t forget to turn it back off. But you check it once in the runup and once you’re cleared for takeoff or right before you make the call to depart, go ahead and apply that carb heat one more time especially when you’ve been sitting awhile waiting for your departure.

And, lastly, have alternate airports in mind. Snow blows. If you’ve seen ice fog, it’s nasty. Runways freeze over. They can get clouded in time. Have alternate airports in mind. Don’t just stick with your home base airport. Know the frequencies, know the runway layouts of other airports nearby and how to get to them quickly.

I want to know what your experience have been this winter or previous winters. If you are on MzeroA.com, leave me a comment below. You will for sure get a reply from me. I can’t guarantee replies on Youtube or other websites, it’s just too much to check. But if you are at MzeroA.com, leave me a comment about your winter flying experience, I want to hear about it. If you’re not at MzeroA.com, go to m0a.com/winter-flying/,leave a comment below the video. You don’t have to register or something like that, just go ahead and type in your comment, you know you’re gonna get a reply from me.

Guys, thank you so much. Be safe this winter and, most importantly, remember, a good pilot is always learning. Have a great day guys! See ya!

  • Brad

    I am a new pilot (67 hours) and I did my primary training from a grass (well, snow-covered) field in Minnesota in the winter (8Y6). Flying VFR in the winter isn’t a huge deal; the main thing I would add is to pay attention to braking advisories, and request them on the CTAF if you’re flying into an uncontrolled field. I recently landed on a nearby uncontrolled paved field after checking AWOS and learning that the braking action was poor. When I landed I discovered the “poor” is a euphemism for “coated with ice.” As a Minnesota native I’m comfortable driving on ice, and the plane really doesn’t handle much differently than a car without anti-lock brakes. The thing to remember is that you’re going to need more runway and you’ll want to use aerodynamic braking. Also, if there’s a crosswind you should consider an alternate field, or at least be very careful about using your control surfaces to keep the airplane on the runway.

    Your advice about gear is important especially if you’re flying cross country from South to North: if you fly six hundred miles North in an airplane you’re going to be landing in a completely different climate than you left. It’s hard to remember to pile on the gear as you head North, but a ground temperature change of one hundred degrees Fahrenheit is not unusual.

    Last, get a CO detector and keep it with you. Carbon Monoxide will impair your ability to understand that you’ve been compromised, and you probably won’t land successfully. If the CO detector goes off, shut off the heat, open the windows, declare an emergency and get on the ground ASAP!

  • http://www.cleghorn.org bradc314

    Love the ‘Dress to Survive’ suggestion. My most recent flight I dressed to reduce cockpit bulk, which would have made things much colder in the event of an off-field landing. Next time I’ll take the bulk, but just stow it in the back.

  • http://www.facebook.com/fiidw Fiid Williams

    Thanks for the commentary about carb heat. I learned to fly on fuel injected airplanes, so this is interesting info for us transitioning _TO_ carbs. :) .

  • Jamesriviello

    Hi Jason,

    Thanks for the useful information on winter flying. Good stuff. I’m 66 yrs old. Ihave been flying for 10 years or so. I’m part owner in a Cherokee 235. I completed me bi-annual this past December. I haven’t been flying very much and always have to encourage myself to do some flying. I fly out of Morgantown, PA O03. I’ve been thinking about instrument training to increase my confidence. I’m always worried of getting into an IFR situation. I only have 240 hrs. 80 in the 235. Didn’t fly the last few years but got motivated this past November and did the bi-annual review. I’m now retired and could be doing more flying. I thinking of at least getting some IFR training. Thanks again for the winter flying information.

    Jim

  • http://peterimbres.com/ Peeta

    I had a carb heat situation about a month before the checkride for my private. I had most of my requirements for my checkride done but it was delayed a little over a month because I was getting married. Now it was winter in Oregon, which means pretty low clouds every day. I really wanted to get out of the pattern to practice maneuvers so the first nice day I got I went out early to try to get out to the practice area. There was a mountain blocking my view of the airport I had in mind so I got a little too far away from my home airport to check it out. When I went around the mountain, I saw that the clouds were too low so I turned around and called the tower to come back. To my surprise, the clouds had also filled in behind me and it was no longer VFR to get back to my home airport. I ended up stuck in a valley with lowering clouds and had to call PDX approach for vectors to an airport. To make matters worse, I was too low so they had to relay instructions to an Alaska Air pilot on how to get to the nearest airport (they were also directing me to a grass field, which could’ve been trouble in wet conditions). The icing on the cake was that the engine was now sputtering whenever I let out the throttle a little. I always struggled with emergency procedures with my CFI but when it actually happened, instinct took over and I pulled out the carb heat without even thinking. That did it, thankfully. Then the clouds cleared and I had decent VFR visibility back to my airport without having to land in a wet grass field. I didn’t get panicy but I was stressed. However, the experience of going through that has given me a lot more respect for the weather and pushed me to begin training for my instrument immediately after getting my private.

    Thanks for sharing your story!

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  • Anonymous

    Peeta!

    Dude, thanks for sharing your incredible story! That is just nuts! I’d really love to hear more about it… We’ll be in touch.

    Jason

  • Anonymous

    Peeta!

    Dude, thanks for sharing your incredible story! That is just nuts! I’d really love to hear more about it… We’ll be in touch.

    Jason

  • Anonymous

    Peeta!

    Dude, thanks for sharing your incredible story! That is just nuts! I’d really love to hear more about it… We’ll be in touch.

    Jason

  • Anonymous

    Even if you don’t get the ticket… It will still be some of the best flying you’ll do. The experience you’ll gain will be huge trust me!

    I say do it!

    Thanks for the comment and sharing your story

    Jason

  • Anonymous

    Even if you don’t get the ticket… It will still be some of the best flying you’ll do. The experience you’ll gain will be huge trust me!

    I say do it!

    Thanks for the comment and sharing your story

    Jason

  • Anonymous

    Even if you don’t get the ticket… It will still be some of the best flying you’ll do. The experience you’ll gain will be huge trust me!

    I say do it!

    Thanks for the comment and sharing your story

    Jason

  • Anonymous

    Fiid,

    No problem! Thanks for being a loyal fan my friend!

    I got your email and will be sending a reply shortly

    Jason

  • Anonymous

    Fiid,

    No problem! Thanks for being a loyal fan my friend!

    I got your email and will be sending a reply shortly

    Jason

  • Anonymous

    Fiid,

    No problem! Thanks for being a loyal fan my friend!

    I got your email and will be sending a reply shortly

    Jason

  • Anonymous

    haha Hey Brad!

    Yes, Reducing cockpit bulk can be important (flying a 150 I know first hand) :)

    However dressing to survive is vital.

    Consider a compact space blanket in the cockpit or few extra layers ;)

    Jason

  • Anonymous

    haha Hey Brad!

    Yes, Reducing cockpit bulk can be important (flying a 150 I know first hand) :)

    However dressing to survive is vital.

    Consider a compact space blanket in the cockpit or few extra layers ;)

    Jason

  • Anonymous

    Brad!

    Awesome story thanks for sharing!

    and even better tips…

    You’re so correct to remember where the heck you’re travelling to because the weather might be quite different.

    Good call on the CO detector I have one in all my aircraft!

    Jason

  • http://twitter.com/buildakicker Jason

    I fly in NorCal, it’s cold usually. We’ve had some 50 degree days, but usually it’s around 20. The hardest thing here is getting the plane ice free. Thankfully we can put it in the hanger and turn the heater on for about 30 mins, then wipe the plane with a hot cloth. Only place freezing is over the gas tanks, just takes a little extra time to get it going. Great site and good thoughts man! I am only 16 hrs into flying, but love it!

  • Doreen Y.

    Thanks for the tips Jason!
    I am very guilty of rushing my pre-flight because I’m cold, I’ll slow down from now on.
    This winter has been terrible in southern Indiana, it’s set me back over a month for my checkride.
    Congrats on getting married, Niagara Falls looked awesome!

  • Jason C.

    Just a question…
    Does the thicker, colder air make a substantial improvement in climb, descent, etc, performance?

  • Tommy

    Jason, thanks for sharing that with us… But I have a carb heat question pertaining to certain engines…I am at 60 hours right now and I trained in a C-152 with a lycoming 0-235-l2c… My instructor told me to treat carb heat as DE-icing equipment and to only use it if icing is suspected(such as dropping rpm or rough running engine) and to not use carb heat as ANTI-icing equipment as it can possibly put you into an icing situation if the temps and humidity are correct for this… So using his advice, I never use carb heat on final approach. I have been told by other people that I should use carb heat on final every time, but then I have to wonder if that is because they are flying a continental engine that is more susceptible to carb ice than a lycoming engine? Your thoughts? I am taking my instrument written next weekend and my instrument flight training begins 1 week later near San Antonio,TX … I cant wait!!! Thanks- Tom

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  • Anonymous

    Awesome man! Keep up the great work and keep kicking butt at it!

    Jason

  • Anonymous

    Thanks Doreen!

    Niagara was a blast!

    Take your time on that preflight and bundle up!

    Jason

  • Anonymous

    DUDE! The Airplane Is A Rocket!

    No Really the 150 performs so much better in cold air

    Think about what factors increase density altitude and decrease performance…

    High Temps
    High Humidity

    In the winter both are low meaning great performance!

    Jason

  • Anonymous

    Tommy,

    Never heard of such a thing… However what would happen if you did get carb ice on short final had to do a go around and the power just wasn’t there?

    I’ve flown both engines and treated both the same. I’m a big carb heat fan and have never “induced” ice by using it… Only prevented it

    Jason

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  • Omorin34

    I just experienced carb ice in my Cherokee 235 this morning. It was about 20F outside and 48% humidity. I fly to work everyday in New Mexico, and I traveled before sunrise. I set up for a long decent at 500′/min under full throttle. After defending 2000 ft to 7000 ft, I pulled the trottle back to 18″, turned on the land light and fuel pump. I then noticed the engine was loosing power, my first reaction was to switch tanks and richen the mixture. This had no effect. I then pulled the carb heat and the engine ran worse for a few seconds and began to clear up. Here in the SW we typically don’t deal with icing, but the humidity is usually around 25%. I had no frost on the plane in the morning, but I was able to maintain 155 kts during the decent. I don’t know if this helped to cool the carb or not. I believe that the conditions were just right and when I pulled the power back, it acted as a catalyst. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Also, we had very little clouds. Clear below 120, no overcast.

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